What Ever Happened to: Karyn White

Here’s an interesting question for you music know-it-alls:

Who is the queen of New Jack Swing?

This inquiry came up on the latest edition of the SoulBack Podcast, with a fan bringing up the name Karyn White. At the time of the podcast, I dismissed it – sure she was a force in the movement, but was she really the Head Superwoman In Charge? I didn’t see it.

That is until I started revisiting her catalog. She may have a claim to the crown after all.

If you don’t remember one of the standout voices of the early 90s, it’s time to refresh your memory.

Karyn White is the baby of the family, the youngest of Vivian and Clarence White’s five children. Like most voices in the 80s and 90s, she honed her instrument in the churchhouse, singing in the choir before eventually landing a gig as a background singer on Jeff Lorber’s 1986 project Private Passion.

Her work for Lorber opened doors and eyes. Soon after, she signed to Warner Bros. Records and was paired with Babyface and LA Reid to work on her debut album.

For you young’ns in the house who only know of Babyface as the guy who is better at Instagram than Teddy Riley, allow me to set the stage – getting the chance to work with Face and Reid in the late 80s is the equivalent of someone handing you not one but TWO winning lottery tickets.

Karyn hit the jackpot.

Her self-titled debut landed in 1988 and you can just ignore that mopey-looking expression on her album cover because she has every reason to be ecstatic. When you think about the biggest names New Jack Swing movement, it’s usually a male-dominated sausage party – Bobby Brown, Guy, Bell Biv Devoe, Keith Sweat, etc. But thanks to Karyn’s No. 1 debut single, “The Way You Love Me,” she proved female artists deserved a space in the NJS lane as well.

And when it came to representing women, Karyn was just getting started.

Hours before I hit publish on this post, Megan thee Stallion dropped a remix to her hit “Savage,” this time featuring Beyonce. Nearly every woman I know had an absolute meltdown – apparently Bey complaining about having to jump up and down to pull her jeans up resonated with every sista on the planet.

I’d say brothers can’t relate but I guess that’s the trick to get into skinny jeans. I still haven’t cracked that code myself.

Anyway, before y’all had Hot Girl Meg and Trap Girl Bey, women had Super Girl Karyn – her second single, “Superwoman” was an anthem unlike any other.

I was in middle school at the time, and I still remember my classmates writing the song’s lyrics in their spiral notebooks and reciting them for any annoying brother who crossed their paths.

“ImnotthekindofgirlTHATYOUCANLETDOWNANDTHINKTHATEVERYTHINGISOK BOY I AM ONLY HUMANNNNNNNNNNN”

“Superwoman” was THE anthem for maturing 80s babies, and trust, dudes were feeling it too. It’s still one of my favorite songs of that era and, in my opinion, the best song Babyface ever penned.

“Superwoman” was Karyn’s second No. 1 R&B single in a row. But could she make it three for three?

“Love Saw It,” featuring Babyface himself, climbed to the top of the charts AGAIN, and while the next single, “Secret Rendezvous,” only made it to No. 4, it’s arguably more memorable, thanks to her unforgettable video.

Whew, I think she got that chair pregnant.

It’s safe to say that Karyn’s platinum-selling debut made her a star right out of the gate, quickly becoming recognized as one of the best releases of the New Jack Swing era. She had way too much momentum to slow down now.

In 1991, Karyn dropped her sophomore effort Ritual of Love, and judging by the cover it looks like she and the chair she impregnated in the “Secret Rendezvous” are now in a committed relationship.

Speaking of relationships, Karyn would enlist the help of Jimmy Jam and future husband Terry Lewis for “Romantic,” her biggest song to date. “Romantic” topped the R&B AND pop charts (remember when R&B songs could go No. 1 on pop charts? Good times) and became yet another New Jack Swing mainstay.

Ritual of Love also spawned “The Way I Feel About You,” another top 5 R&B hit, as well as, whew lawd, “Walkin’ the Dog.” If “Superwoman” was a rallying cry for underappreciated women, “Walkin’ the Dog” was a 1991 draggin’ session. She’s literally comparing training men to training pets.

If this song dropped today she would be the queen of Black Feminist Twitter.

Ritual of Love was another winner for Karyn, eventually going gold. But by 1994, things began to slow down a bit.

If you’re a frequent reader of this feature, you’ve heard the story a million times before – by the mid-90s, times were a changin’ and the New Jack bounce was swiftly transitioning into a more edgy hip-hop sound. Established artists had to adapt or face extinction.

In 1994, Karyn dropped her third album, Make Him Do Right, once again resuming her mission to knock some sense into these lame dudes outchea.

Babyface returned to pen “Can I Stay With You,” Karyn’s last top 10 R&B hit. I also remember the remix to “Hungah” getting decent airplay but sadly Make Him Do Right didn’t come close to the success of Karyn’s previous efforts. Wasn’t for a lack of trying, though – it was a solid project that just kinda got lost in the new era of R&B.

Karyn would eventually leave Warner Bros behind a few years later and would be milk-carton status by end of the decade, totally vanishing from a genre she helped define just a few years earlier.

Nearly 10 years later, she’d attempt a comeback with an album slated to be named Sista Sista – that release would be shelved before seeing the light of day. Two tracks, “All I Do” and “Disconnected,” would wind up on her greatest hits compilation in 2007.

But if you think that setback would stop Karyn, you clearly haven’t been paying attention. She’s the Superwoman who makes chairs fall in love with her, she wasn’t laying down that easily.

Five years later, we finally got that comeback album – 2012’s Carpe Diem. Once again, she was in empowerment mode, celebrating women on “Sista Sista” and fighting through heartache on “Unbreakable.”

Not long afterward, she’d try her hand at Hollywood, landing a role in BET Centric’s Beauty and the Baller and, later, the film Gale and the Storm. It’s probably no surprise that she contributed music to the film’s soundtrack, dropping “Lame Excuses” in 2018.

Should She Come Back?: This is a tough one. As we’ve seen in this era of R&B, there’s always room for veterans to return for another shot at glory, especially former headliners like Karyn who have been relatively low-key in recent years. But she also seems to have found her groove in the acting world, so she’s probably content there.

However, in an era where women’s empowerment is such a large part of mainstream music, it seems only right for the original Superwoman to throw on her cape one mo’ time.

Women and chairs everywhere would rejoice.

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12 Comments

  1. “Nobody but My Baby” is my JAM

  2. Interesting… Karyn White. I enjoy her music and I think she can sing, but that competition during the time was no joke. In the 80’s, ’twas Whitney Houston and Janet Jackson. In the 90’s, ’twas Mariah Carey, Mary J. Blige and Toni Braxton. See, strong competition w/ huge machines. After 1995, the party was over. Very few artists kept pressing on. Mr. Kenny “Babyface” Edmonds seemed to be smooth sailing. My favorite ended up being “Love Saw It” feat. Face.

  3. Karen White’s a good artist but (as LaChele already notes) the competition was lofty during those (late 80s thru mid 90s) days. Indeed (in some sense) the party generally was over after “1995” if not very slightly before.

  4. I LOVE Romantic. I’m sure it was very hard for some artists to stand out in those days. The 90s was so stacked.

    • She’s one of the best I respect in my book.

      • I was just listening to her last night and I’m sorry she can hold a note much better than Mariah could ever hold one. Karyn White is one of the number ones in my book! That lady can go from low to high and hold a note without having to Screech. I will always love her.

  5. So you think its okay to compare training men to dogs. Yet if a rapper said that about black women “feminist black twitter” would be practically ready to cry rape.

  6. Maurice Curtis Brown September 19, 2021 at 6:26 pm

    Wasn’t it a video made to the super woman song ?

  7. I think had she stuck with Face and Reid for her second project at least, She would have had longevity. Usually/ When an artist strikes jackpot on one project, they stay with that camp for the most part on round 2 and 3. That’s what Michael did, Janet did, Whitney did, New Edition did. They know your formula. After you become a household name after about 3 projects, then branch. But the twist to that was she was married to her new hitmaker, so I understand it.
    The second project rode the last train from Rhythm Nation station in Minneapolis back to LA. Personally, I like Ritual. I think it’s her best album. But I couldn’t help but have side thoughts of Escapade and Nation here and there. But here is what she could have did to counter that.
    Single1-Ritual
    -Something different, something fresh. It’s African. It’s pop. It’s RandB. It’s Hip Hop. AND it’s House….in 91′ you can’t go wrong with House! She and a slew of other late 80s starlets often didn’t like being pigeonholed into the Janet’s afterthought after-party,’ so why chase out the gate her sound for the sake of a number one and pay for it later?!!! The self title would have made a sole’ stamp for her.
    Single2- Romantic
    This is a “safer” time to release this song…as I know it was very dear to her given being a Newlywed and enjoying her new life. It’s an exuberant song. It is single’ quality. Given some of the numbers were passovers from her rival, some of the niche was carried over, but not throwing it out so fast after one era just ended. It would have had a stronger appeal, likely as a second number one.
    Single3- Walking the Dawg’
    Now this is where she could have have had the best leverage of her career. Everything Janet sang about on her following album was in this one song here. Whether Janet played this cassette until it wore out or not for ideas, this 3.5 minute song is’ the Janet album. It would have fit better in this mold after the 2 proper’ beginning singles and would have shined more and had staying power….because the songwriting is clever and innovative for it’s timeframe.
    Single4-Tears of Joy
    She claims it’s her favorite. It’s a favorite of mine too, along with it’s proceeding song Beside You. The keyboard melody and base in that song made her voice ooze. I always consider Karyn as an “in-between” of that era. Meaning…Not quite Whitney/definitely better than Janet. You got someone who has a light voice, but still with a lot of soul in it. So a ballad like that could have given her a boost in a similar way Superwoman did. Cause no other “young and popular” starlet other than Whitney could soar balladry like Karyn did until Toni came through.

    MHDR was good to me after 2 listens. Nobody But My Baby, Rather Be Alone, Here Comes The Pain Again. Only problem(s) with that one again is she was feasting from Janet93 crumbs again with Hungah, Weakness, and Simple Pleasures…and I couldn’t help but wonder if Make Him Do Right and Can I Stay With You Baby we’re demos originally given to Toni. Painful spot to be stuck in between from those two teams she worked with. Just another one of those unfortunately lost in the shuffle’ artists. Which sucks because she had a better sound than Jody Watley, but with Karyn being more R&B, and not with an edgy’ or overly sexual’ look…well, that’s Whitney’a gimmick. So where does that leave her? They didn’t know how to market her along the way. Gosh why does it seem like the 80s were always the best time to be a star? Lol. There were duplicates everywhere, yet each one had a batch of hits.

    Carpe Diem was experimental as I would say, after 26 years, she was able to do what she wanted to do. Unbreakable, Sista we’re great cuts. Independent works well for her. Hopefully she will do another one day. That one was 2012.

  8. She was just inducted to Hall Of Fame lately ,which is something she deserved,but the media will always reject this talented artists like Karyn,they only concentrate on Beyonce .Karyn is par-brilliant singer compared to much more overrated one’s.

  9. I loved her songs. I used to play them while on desk duty at the police department.She is very attractive.And as sweet as a kit Kat. Retired now,I still love and play her songs.She reminds me of Barbara Weathers and her hit single, ” Master Key “.

  10. Love you and all of your music not to mention how beautiful you are.

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